Sadly, modern Christianity deals more with the words of the false prophet Paul

[My Name]

Jesus said that true prophets can be distinguished from
false prophets by "their fruits." He mused, "Do men gather
grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" In other words, he
told us to check out the story of a so-called prophet or
person of influence. If the story doesn’t add up, then the
person in question should be viewed as a false prophet.

Having stated that, here is some additional information
about Paul. Firstly, Paul was linked—from the moment of his
so-called conversion in Damascus—to one of the same high-
priests who had Jesus killed. The man’s name was "Ananias"
(Acts 9:10, King James). It was Ananias who restored Saul's
sight after being blinded during his so-called vision of
Jesus at Damascus.

The Bible states that Ananias [complained to the Lord that
Paul] had "authority

from the chiefs to bind all that call on thy name" (Acts
9:14). [So Ananias was

apparently quite familiar with the hierarchy of the high
priests and the Sanhedrin.

Ananias may have been somewhat influential himself.]
Possibly a former high priest.

Ananias [may have been] one of the high priests in the
Sanhedrin who questioned Jesus before his execution. In the
King James Version of the Bible, this man's name is spelled
"Annas." He was the father-in-law of Joseph Caiaphais, the
high priest who decreed that Jesus must die (John 11:49-51).
In fact, Jesus was first questioned by Annas after being
arrested by the Sanhedrin guards. Annas turned Jesus over to
Caiaphas who turned him over to Pilate for crucifixion.

The English translations of Antiquities, by Josephus,
identifies "Ananus" as a high-priest appointed to head the
Sanhedrin a few years before Caiaphas (ref. Josephus,
Antiquities, Book 18, Chapter 2). In John 18:13, it states
that Annas (Ananus) was the father-in-law of Joseph Caiaphas.

So we know that Ananus and Annas were the same person, but
different authors or translators spelled their names
differently (in Antiquities versus John). So it seems highly
plausible that the person known as Ananias (from Acts 9,
Saul's pal) is also Ananus/Annas.

It is highly suspicious that the same high priest who was
deeply involved in the murder of Jesus was also linked to
Paul’s conversion to Christianity.

Secondly, Paul’s teachings are much different from those of
Jesus. Jesus taught people how to live their lives in a
manner that would please God. In addition, he said in no
uncertain terms that those who practice Pharisaic teachings
would not escape hell. He called them the children of the
Devil. Paul WAS a Pharisee. In addition, Paul focused on the
meaning of the resurrection in an obsessive manner that left
most of Jesus’s teaching forgotten—particularly the
damnation of the Pharisees and their followers.

Thirdly, Paul never attempted to atone for his life as a
Pharisee or his association with one of the high priests
involved in the murder of Jesus. In fact, he boasted of his
status as a Pharisee. It should be regarded as blasphemy
that an active Pharisee would spread Christianity and [may
have been] aided in [his] efforts by one of Jesus’s murderers,
high-priest Ananus.

Jesus said of false prophets, "Ye shall know them by their
fruits." I can see nothing but rotten fruit produced from Paul.

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/paul_the_apostle.htm
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/paul_the_pharisee.htm
--
A government, of Israel, by Israel, and, for: Israel.
But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light:
for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. The light shineth in darkness;
and the darkness comprehended it not. The light of the body is the eye:
if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.
If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead,
and Christ shall give thee light. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

[1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist]

Post by My Name
I can see nothing but rotten fruit produced from Paul.

Only because you are as blinded as a bat and foolishly flying into the
hell-fires of "Everlasting Destruction."

[Jude Alexander]

Post by 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist

Post by My Name
I can see nothing but rotten fruit produced from Paul.

Only because you are as blinded as a bat and foolishly flying into the
hell-fires of "Everlasting Destruction."

Wow. on a scale of 1-10, how good do you feel when you tell people they're
going to be tormented and destroyed? :)

[My Name]

Post by Jude Alexander

Post by 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist

Post by My Name
I can see nothing but rotten fruit produced from Paul.

Only because you are as blinded as a bat and foolishly flying into the
hell-fires of "Everlasting Destruction."

Wow. on a scale of 1-10, how good do you feel when you tell people they're
going to be tormented and destroyed? :)

Probably like GOD!!!!!!!
It IS Who's THRONE /he/ OCCUPIES, ostensibly!!!
--
A government, of Israel, by Israel, and, for: Israel.
But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light:
for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. The light shineth in darkness;
and the darkness comprehended it not. The light of the body is the eye:
if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.
If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead,
and Christ shall give thee light. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

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[Jude Alexander]

Post by My Name

Post by Jude Alexander

Post by 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist

Post by My Name
I can see nothing but rotten fruit produced from Paul.

Only because you are as blinded as a bat and foolishly flying into the
hell-fires of "Everlasting Destruction."

Wow. on a scale of 1-10, how good do you feel when you tell people they're
going to be tormented and destroyed? :)

Probably like GOD!!!!!!!
It IS Who's THRONE /he/ OCCUPIES, ostensibly!!!

Agreed.

[1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist]

Post by Jude Alexander

Post by 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist

Post by My Name
I can see nothing but rotten fruit produced from Paul.

Only because you are as blinded as a bat and foolishly flying into the
hell-fires of "Everlasting Destruction."

Wow. on a scale of 1-10, how good do you feel when you tell people they're
going to be tormented and destroyed? :)

On the same scale as....."Paul also wrote to you with the wisdom that God
gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of
these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand,
which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures,
to their own destruction." 2 Peter 3:15-16 (ANIV)
HTH.

Jeff...
"From Paul, a servant of God and
an apostle of Jesus Christ. I was sent to lead God's chosen people to faith
and to the knowledge of the truth that leads to a godly life." Titus 1:1
(GW)

[I]

Post by Jude Alexander
Wow. on a scale of 1-10, how good do you feel when you tell people
they're going to be tormented and destroyed? :)

On the same scale as..... 2 Peter 3:15-16 (ANIV)

You quoted a FORGERY written 100 - 160 CE when Peter was DEAD.

See http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/2peter.html

[Jude Alexander]

Post by I

Post by Jude Alexander
Wow. on a scale of 1-10, how good do you feel when you tell people
they're going to be tormented and destroyed? :)

On the same scale as..... 2 Peter 3:15-16 (ANIV)

You quoted a FORGERY written 100 - 160 CE when Peter was DEAD.

Oh, POOH, don't spoil his fun!

Post by I
See http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/2peter.html

[I]

Post by Jude Alexander

Post by I

Post by Jude Alexander
Wow. on a scale of 1-10, how good do you feel when you tell people
they're going to be tormented and destroyed? :)

On the same scale as..... 2 Peter 3:15-16 (ANIV)

You quoted a FORGERY written 100 - 160 CE when Peter was DEAD.

Oh, POOH, don't spoil his fun!

Post by I
See http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/2peter.html

WHY are fundamentalists like Jeff addicted to quoting forgeries??????

WHY can't they quote the authentic books in the Bible such as Mark's gospel
(ending 16:8)??????

[Doug]

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 11:24:17 +1100, "I"

Post by I

Post by Jude Alexander
Wow. on a scale of 1-10, how good do you feel when you tell people
they're going to be tormented and destroyed? :)

On the same scale as..... 2 Peter 3:15-16 (ANIV)

You quoted a FORGERY written 100 - 160 CE when Peter was DEAD.
See http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/2peter.html

On this site, it is stated: "Kummel presents the arguments that make all
critical scholars recognize that II Peter is a pseudepigraph
(Introduction to the New Testament, pp. 430-4):"

Hmm...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pseudepigraph

pseudepigraph
- no dictionary results
Did you mean Pseudepigraphy?

pseud·e·pig·ra·phy
-noun
the false ascription of a piece of writing to an author.

Most Christians throughout the ages have accepted the two epistles named
after Peter as genuine works of the apostle Peter, as the opening words
would indicate, but it is possible, that the epistle was written by some
other person and then attributed to the apostle Peter by a fraud; however
given the content, this is most improbable. It is the spirit of Christ
that comes through in the message. But that is something unbelievers
would not perceive.

The quoted writer and the website states: "Since Jude belongs in the
postapostolic age, Peter cannot have written II Pet."

So the argument hangs on the date of Jude. However, ancient tradition
says Jude was the brother of Jesus and of James. How could that epistle
not belong in the apostolic age?

<quote>
It is certain, therefore, that II Pet does not originate with Peter, and
this is today widely acknowledged.

6. In spite of its heavy stress on Petrine authorship, II Pet is nowhwere
mentioned in the second century. The apologists, Irenaeus, Tertullian,
Cyprian, Clement of Alexandria, and the Muratorian Canon are completely
silent about it. Its first attestation is in Origen, but according to him
the letter is contested. Eusebius lists it among the antilegomena. . .
Even down to the fourth century II Pet was largely unknown or not
recognized as canonical.
</quote>

When critics are *certain,* it is a good reason to be suspicious. Why not
state the supporting facts? In this case, the support is of a negative
kind. Some authors doubted it was genuine. Therefore it must have been
widely circulated, or why would they mention it? They may have wanted to
discredit it.

Scholars often state something is "certain" to mask a weak argument.
"When in doubt, shout!"

The fact is, 2 Peter condemns many of the writings of the early church
fathers, especially the ones who tried to merge Plato's doctrines with
the apostolic teachings. This is true of Clement of Alexandria and Origin
and is widely acknowledged. The apostle Peter described the false
teachers in chapter 2.

Those scholars who ignored 2 Peter had good reason to hope it would go
away. They must have hated it with a passion! Some of them, included in
the above list, were among the very people Peter was writing about!

The 2nd chapter ends:

2 Peter 2:20-22
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the
knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled
therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the
beginning.
For it had been better for them not to have known the way of
righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy
commandment delivered unto them.
But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is
turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her
wallowing in the mire.

To learn the gospel and to be called out of the world, to learn of the
promises of God, and to turn from it to pagan superstition, as those men
did, was to be "a dog who turned to his own vomit again" and "a sow that
was washed returning to her wallowing in the mire."

They heard the gospel, and imported Plato's doctrine of an immortal soul,
and the idea of unending infernal torment of unbelievers; in various
subtle ways they identified God with Zeus, or with the rigid heaven or
universe, which was represented by the domes of churches; and similarly
they associated Christ with Osiris, or Apollo, or Mithras.

So, the words of 2 Peter applied to them; the early church fathers
fulfilled it and the rising flood of superstition brought a dark age upon
the world.

Now let's look at the author of the website that Mark linked to as an
"authority."

Home page © 2001-2006 Peter Kirby
"Please buy the CD to support the site and get bonus stuff!"

Oh, now it is clear, he hopes to make some money from his stuff!

Peter Kirby
http://www.blogger.com/profile/16724603345241200742

<quote>

* Gender: Male
* Industry: Student
* Location: Placentia : California : United States

Interests

* Biochemistry
* Computer Science
* History

Favorite Movies

* Ferris Bueller's Day Off
* The Life of Brian
* Groundhog Day
* Beetlejuice
* Alice in Wonderland
* Annie Hall
* The Princess Bride
* There's Something About Mary

Favorite Music

* Cake
* No Doubt
* Green Day
* Save Ferris
* Jimmy Eat World
* Blink 182
* Vandals
* Embassy

Favorite Books

* The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
* Cat's Cradle
* Small Gods
* Foundation
* Odyssey
* Inferno
* Gospel of John
* Lies My Teacher Told Me
* The History of Western Philosophy

</quote>

IMO Mark seems to be a rather gullible, sadly deceived person.

Along with the links hi cites, and the authors he quotes, he contributes
to the "flood from the mouth of the serpent" that scripture long ago
foretold.

Rev. 12:15
"And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman,
that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood."

And, IMO, Mark fits the description of false teachers given in 2 Peter:

2 Peter 2:17-18
These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to
whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through
the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean
escaped from them who live in error.

Look at the volume of his posts! Who bothers to read them?

He is certainly "carried with a tempest."

And he fits numerous other prophecies too, but this will suffice for now.

[I]

Post by Doug

Post by I

Post by 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist
2 Peter 3:15-16 (ANIV)

You quoted a FORGERY written 100 - 160 CE when Peter was DEAD.
See http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/2peter.html

On this site, it is stated: "Kummel presents the arguments that make all
critical scholars recognize that II Peter is a pseudepigraph
(Introduction to the New Testament, pp. 430-4):"

...

Post by Doug
It is certain, therefore, that II Pet does not originate with Peter, and
this is today widely acknowledged.

...

Post by Doug
When critics are *certain,* it is a good reason to be suspicious.

When fundamentalists scorn contemporary biblical scholarship it is good
reason to be suspicious of fundamentalism as fundamentalists only want to
drag you back to the opinions of people in the 1800s.

[Doug]

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 12:48:13 +1100, "I"

Post by I

Post by Doug

Post by 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist
2 Peter 3:15-16 (ANIV)

You quoted a FORGERY written 100 - 160 CE when Peter was DEAD. See
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/2peter.html

On this site, it is stated: "Kummel presents the arguments that make
all critical scholars recognize that II Peter is a pseudepigraph
(Introduction to the New Testament, pp. 430-4):"

...

Post by Doug
It is certain, therefore, that II Pet does not originate with Peter,
and this is today widely acknowledged.

...

Post by Doug
When critics are *certain,* it is a good reason to be suspicious.

When fundamentalists scorn contemporary biblical scholarship it is good
reason to be suspicious of fundamentalism as fundamentalists only want
to drag you back to the opinions of people in the 1800s.

The apostle Paul said that "in the latter times some shall depart from
the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot
iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which
God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe
and know the truth."

The "seducing spirits" are the teachings that oppose the "faith that was
once delivered to the saints." There is contemporary biblical scholarship
that confirms the truth of the gospel, and there is much more that does
not. There is some that fits the "doctrines of devils" label; and I have
seen some of it coming from you.

[I]

Post by Doug

Post by I

Post by Doug

Post by 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist
2 Peter 3:15-16 (ANIV)

You quoted a FORGERY written 100 - 160 CE when Peter was DEAD. See
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/2peter.html

On this site, it is stated: "Kummel presents the arguments that make
all critical scholars recognize that II Peter is a pseudepigraph
(Introduction to the New Testament, pp. 430-4):"

...

Post by Doug
It is certain, therefore, that II Pet does not originate with Peter,
and this is today widely acknowledged.

...
When fundamentalists scorn contemporary biblical scholarship it is good
reason to be suspicious of fundamentalism as fundamentalists only want
to drag you back to the opinions of people in the 1800s.

The apostle Paul said that "in the latter times some shall depart from
the faith, .....

Quoted from I Timothy 4:1 - A FORGERY written 100-150 CE when Paul was DEAD.

See http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/1timothy.html

WHY do you like to post FORGERIES????????

Can't you quote from an AUTHENTIC book in the Bible such as mark's gospel
(ending 16:8)?????

[Doug]

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 13:08:12 +1100, "I"

Post by I

Post by Doug

Post by I

Post by Doug

Post by 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist
2 Peter 3:15-16 (ANIV)

You quoted a FORGERY written 100 - 160 CE when Peter was DEAD. See
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/2peter.html

On this site, it is stated: "Kummel presents the arguments that make
all critical scholars recognize that II Peter is a pseudepigraph
(Introduction to the New Testament, pp. 430-4):"

...

Post by Doug
It is certain, therefore, that II Pet does not originate with Peter,
and this is today widely acknowledged.

...
When fundamentalists scorn contemporary biblical scholarship it is
good reason to be suspicious of fundamentalism as fundamentalists only
want to drag you back to the opinions of people in the 1800s.

The apostle Paul said that "in the latter times some shall depart from
the faith, .....

Quoted from I Timothy 4:1 - A FORGERY written 100-150 CE when Paul was DEAD.
See http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/1timothy.html
WHY do you like to post FORGERIES????????
Can't you quote from an AUTHENTIC book in the Bible such as mark's
gospel (ending 16:8)?????

Are you really that superstitious, you will only accept a gospel that has
your name?

[I]

Post by Doug

Post by I

Post by Doug

Post by 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist
2 Peter 3:15-16 (ANIV)

You quoted a FORGERY written 100 - 160 CE when Peter was DEAD. See
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/2peter.html

....

Post by Doug

Post by I

Post by Doug
The apostle Paul said that "in the latter times some shall depart from
the faith, .....

Quoted from I Timothy 4:1 - A FORGERY written 100-150 CE when Paul was DEAD.
See http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/1timothy.html
WHY do you like to post FORGERIES????????
Can't you quote from an AUTHENTIC book in the Bible such as Mark's
gospel (ending 16:8)?????

Are you really that superstitious, you will only accept a gospel that has
your name?

I will only accept bible books that are AUTHENTIC.

WHY do you like to post FORGERIES????????

#############################################

BIBLE TIMELINE

Dates are approximate

NEW TESTAMENT

6 BCE
- Jesus birth


27 CE
- John the Baptist: the precursor and mentor of Jesus dies.

27 - 34 CE
- Jesus' death

50 - 60 CE
- Sayings Gospel Q (first edition)
- Gospel of Thomas (first edition)

- 1 Thessalonians (Paul)
- Philippians (Paul)
- Galatians (Paul)
- 1 Corinthians (Paul)
- 2 Corinthians (Paul)
- Romans (Paul)
- Philemon (Paul)


Paul doesn't write much about Jesus' life and doesn't mention any miracles.

50 - 80 CE
- Colossians (May not be Paul)

50 - 95 CE
- Hebrews (Not Paul)

50 - 100 CE
- Gospel of Peter (first edition)
- Ergeton Gospel


60 - 70 CE
- Gospel of Signs

60 - 80 CE
Didache, the first believer's handbook (first edition)

65 - 80 CE
- Mark's gospel
- First edition, about 70 CE
- Source may be Peter
- Messianic secret
- Based on Deuteronomy / liturgy
- All actions could be done in one week

Mark's Gospel is THE MAJOR SOURCE of all the other gospels and very Jewish.
There are not four gospels telling differing eyewitness accounts but three
gospels retelling Mark's gospel with their own editing and additions. Jesus
is depicted as a Jewish rabbi who went about healing people and telling them
to turn to the One God Yahweh. To repent is to return from exile. There are
no spectacular miracles and no resurrection appearance. Jesus is not
portrayed as being the One God Yahweh.

Mark's gospel is a LITURGY that has used Deuteronomy as the way to organise
the narrative.

Study Mark's gospel with Deuteronomy side by side.

Mark 1 onwards is about the Day of Atonement.
Mark 3 onwards is about the Festival of Tabernacles.
Mark 9 onwards is about Hanukkah.
Mark 13 is a mini-apocalypse
Mark 14 & 15 were written first and are about the late March /early April
Passover vigil:
14:1-16 ... 6.00pm Thursday
14:17-26 ... 9.00am
14:26-42 ... Midnight
14:43-52 ... 3.00am
14:53-72 ... 6.00am
15:1-25 ... 9.00am
15:26-32 ... midday
15:33-41 ... 3.00 pm
15:42-47 ... 6.00pm Friday

################################
DESTRUCTION OF THE JEWISH TEMPLE IN 70 CE
###############################

This changes everything and is vitally important! There is no longer a
Jewish heart of Christianity at Jerusalem. The apostles are not up the road
and able to be talked with easily as one goes to the Temple. The church is
scattered throughout the Roman Empire thanks to Paul. Greek thinking from
the Roman Empire starts to infiltrate. Jesus must be portrayed as greater
than Caesar. Caesar has as his titles "lord and god". Romans worship lots
of "lesser gods". The writers take great care to show that Jesus is greater
than Caesar who has destroyed Jerusalem. As Jews have lost their Temple
they form more reliance on the synagogue. Christian Jews are eating with
Gentiles and not observing a separation. Increasingly Jews do not want
Christian Jews who associate and eat with Gentiles in their synagogues.
Christian Gentiles increasingly don't want the Roman Empire to blame them
for the problems the Jews caused which resulted in the sacking of Jerusalem.
Christian Gentiles want to be friends with the Roman Empire in which they
live. A divide is caused between Christians and Jews which wasn't there
before the destruction of the Temple but us retrospectively written by the
next gospel writers.

70 - 100 CE
- James

80 -100 CE
- 2 Thessalonians (May not be Paul)
- Ephesians (May not be Paul)


85 CE
- Matthew's gospel
- incorporating Mark & Q
- Addressed to Diaspora
- Written in Antioch
- Conservative
- 90% of the references to Hell
- Based on Moses' life / Exodus
- Portrays division between Jews and Christians

Matthew's gospel uses the Torah as the way to organise the narrative.

Read Matthew's gospel with the Torah side by side.

Matthew 1 ... Genealogy referring to Abraham in lots of 14
Matthew 2 .... Micah 5:2
Matthew 2:1-2 .... "wise men & star" ONLY in Matthew.
Matthew 2:13-15 ... Genesis 46
Matthew 2:16 ... Exodus 21
Matthew 2:17-18 ... Genesis 35:18-20
Matthew 2:17 .... Isaiah 42:1
Matthew 4 ... Exodus 16:4
Matthew 5 ... 1. GENESIS ... mountain top "Greater than Moses" .. "you have
heard that it was said ...but I say ..."
Matthew 5:17 ... "law & prophets" ONLY in Matthew
Matthew 8:25 ... "lord / boss" (Mark had "teacher / rabbi")
Matthew 10:5 ... 2. EXODUS
Matthew 12:40 ... 1 day and 2 nights: 3.00pm Friday to dawn Sunday.
Matthew 13 ... 3. LEVITICUS
Matthew 13:43 ... Daniel 2:3
Matthew 13:52 ... AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL (what Matthew is doing in his gospel)
Matthew 13 55 .... carpenter added as Jesus' father
Matthew 14:21 ... A. FEEDING JEWS
Matthew 15:38 ... B. FEEDING GENTILES
Matthew 17: 4 ... "lord / boss" (Mark had "master")
Matthew 17:1-8 ... Exodus 34:29-35
Matthew 7:27 ... "fish with coin" ONLY in Matthew
Matthew 18:1 ......4. NUMBERS
Matthew 24:1 ..... 5. DEUTERONOMY
Matthew 26:32 ... meet in Galilee
Matthew 27 ... Psalm 22
Matthew 28:2 ... "earthquake & angel" ONLY in Matthew
Matthew 28:7, 9-10 ... "angel and Jesus" SAME message - meet in Galilee ...
Matthew 28:11-15 ... "stolen rumour" ONLY in Matthew
Matthew 28:18 ... Daniel 7:14

80 -110 CE
- 1 Peter

90 CE
- Luke's gospel, Acts (both written in Caesarea)
- incorporating Mark & Q
- Roman recognition sought
- Gentile interested in universalism
- Focuses on spirit
- Based on II Isaiah
- Jesus portrayed as greater than Elijah


Luke's gospel uses II Isaiah and Torah as the way to organise the
narrative. The term "spirit" is used more often than any other gospel.

Luke 1:1 .... 1. GENESIS
Luke 3:38 .... "son of Adam" Gentiles included
Luke 4:1 ..... 2. EXODUS
Luke 6:20 ... 3. LEVITICUS
Luke 8:19-20 .... mother and brothers but no father
Luke 8:26 .... 4. NUMBERS
Luke 9:20 .... "Christ of God"
Luke 9:51 .... 5. DEUTERONOMY
Luke 10:30-37 ... "good Samaritan" ONLY in Luke
Luke 15:3-7 ... "lost sheep" ONLY in Luke
Luke 15:11-32 ... "prodigal son" ONLY in Luke
Luke 16:19-31 ... LAZARUS ONLY in Luke *(This is the basis for the raising
of Lazarus from the dead in John's gospel)
Luke 18:2-8 ... "persistent widow" ONLY in Luke
Luke 18:10-14 ... "Pharisee at prayer" ONLY in Luke
Luke 19:12-27 .... Retelling Matthew 15:14-30
Luke 24:27, 44 ......... AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL (What Luke is doing in his gospel)
Luke 24:50-51 ...."Greater than Elijah" 2 Kings 2:1

90 - 95 CE
- Revelation of John (Not the apostle John)
- Apocalyptic genre

90 -120 CE.
- I John, 2 John, 3 John, Jude

- John's Gospel
- incorporating the Gospel of Signs
- Not the apostle
- Written in Ephesus
- Centred in Judea / Jerusalem not synoptic Galilee
- Actions over 3-4 years instead of synoptics 1 year
- Symbolic narrative
- Focus on Wisdom and Word
- Focus on self rather than kingdom of God
- No Ascension or Pentecost


John's Gospel has very little of what the historic time / space Jesus of
Nazareth ever said. It can only be understood in the light of the
philosophy of Philo.

John 1:41 .... "means Christ" GREEK *("Christ" is used extensively.)
John 5:18 .... "Father" equality with God
John 8:44 .... anti-Jew
John 10:33 ... "man as God" Jesus as God
John 11 ........retelling of Matthew's Lazarus story
John 17:3 ... Jesus speaks of himself in the third person
John 20:22 ... John's "Pentecost" moment
John 21:23-24 .... Not the apostle John


100 CE
- Gospel of Mark, canonical edition

100 -150 CE
-1 Timothy (Not Paul)
- 2 Timothy (Not Paul)
- Titus (Not Paul)

- Gospel of John, third edition (insertions and additions)
- Gospel of Mary (Greek and Coptic fragments)
- Didache, second edition (insertions and additions)
- Gospel of Thomas, second edition (surviving edition)
- Surviving fragment of Gospel of John (P52)
- Surviving fragments of Ergeton Gospel (PErgeton and PKoln)

100 -160 CE
- 2 Peter (Not Peter)


100-325 CE
- Emergence of four "recognized" gospels.
- Emergence of an official collection of Christian writings ("New
Testament")

130 CE
- Aquila of Pontus translated the Old Testament into Greek.
- Jews of his time preferred it to the Septuagint version, as did the
Judaistic sect of Christians called Ebionites.

150 CE
- Old Latin version

150-250 CE
- Syriac Peshitta version


300-350 CE
- First surviving copies of "Bibles"


313 CE
- Christianity becomes a state religion


325 CE
- Council of Nicea
- First official creeds

Refer to http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/ and Funk, Hoover& The Jesus
Seminar "The Five Gospels" (Polebridge: 1993) Figure 9 p. 128

[My Name]

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I can see nothing but rotten fruit produced from Paul.

Only because you are as blinded as a bat

I didn't WRITE IT, FOOL!!!
--
A government, of Israel, by Israel, and, for: Israel.
But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light:
for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. The light shineth in darkness;
and the darkness comprehended it not. The light of the body is the eye:
if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.
If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead,
and Christ shall give thee light. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

[My Name]

Post by 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist

Post by My Name
I can see nothing but rotten fruit produced from Paul.

Only because you are as blinded as a bat

I didn't WRITE IT, FOOL!!!
--
A government, of Israel, by Israel, and, for: Israel.
But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light:
for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. The light shineth in darkness;
and the darkness comprehended it not. The light of the body is the eye:
if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.
If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead,
and Christ shall give thee light. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

[My Name]

Post by 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist

Post by My Name
I can see nothing but rotten fruit produced from Paul.

Only because you are as blinded as a bat

I didn't WRITE IT, FOOL!!!
--
A government, of Israel, by Israel, and, for: Israel.
But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light:
for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. The light shineth in darkness;
and the darkness comprehended it not. The light of the body is the eye:
if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.
If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead,
and Christ shall give thee light. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

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